I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. The girls were just in their pajamas; they werent wrapped in blankets. Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. His aversion to it is so blatant, and its obvious why. One of the predatory marketing techniques used by MLMs (which overwhelmingly target MOMs) is that they can be at home *with* their children, making extra money with little effort. of OCD triggers and symptoms. Make sense? She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. It was almost too much to absorb at one reading. So wheres the problem here? What is going on?? That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. Chris and or others..I tend to agreeShan ann was imodefinitely disabled at some pointBella maybe not..she fought hard. Could be so because Shanann had no defensive wounds and he said she didnt fight. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. Weld County DA In the text, Shanann also tells Chris that he hasn't shown any signs of missing her in the weeks they have been apart. @Karen. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. would that be a normal time for Chris to leave for work? And the decision to move Chris out of state as well? She tells him youll never see the kids again he flips, kills her and poor little Bella sees it. And Ive also learned a LOT about her between videos, and every page of the 1,960 pages of documents released by authorities under Colorado statute. Because she was submerged in oil for four days. Not one place on his body? Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. My opinion, when Nicole Atkinson said Shanann was OCD, I think she was using the term loosely, as a description, not a diagnosed disorder. With ShanAnn, IF she was attacked and killed shortly after she arrived home, while still downstairs, she would have still been dressed her underwear and pants would have caught it. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. No. I believe it was to make her feel more at ease, able to sleep instead of up all night crying. Chriss demeanor was nonchalant. It could be all the thrive he was taking. In his story he goes downstairs & hears commotion goes into the bedroom & sees Bella on her bed with covers off & then Shannan on top of CeCe. "Chris Watts Just Snapped" "Why wasn't Shan'ann's body dumped into the oil tanks as well?" #Shakedown's Call on the Chris Watts Case: The Bodies were "Processed" ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. First off lets not forget it was only after Chris failed the polygraph & then they said its time to come clean & Chris first said I had an affair, Ive been cheating on my wife, so I hurt her emotionally thats why its saying I lied. CeCe was face down no oil inside her. The Watts murders got to me also. He was asleep. Murdering someone through strangulation doesnt take that long. She should have seen my house when my kids were little. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. Would he have cleaned up Shannans stuff if he didnt kill them? This was filmed during the police officers body cam footage. After 2nd child, changed. If you cant respect others in their opinions and input, youre definitely not intelligent. Wanting to know why is simply that wanting to know why. Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. He is not only a monster, but also a coward, by quickly disabling his victims. Was there no evidence of feces on the girls beds either so maybe they were not killed in bed? Read my above post. Remember it wasnt just the suitcase downstairs, her purse was downstairs too. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. He knew this too, which is why he was so brazen using the card that weekend. Chris is a monster. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! Bella has oil in her stomach but Celeste doesnt. Shannann even said that he was like another person. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. If she was murdered in bed, why isnt there any evidence of that? In terms of your comments about respect, you clearly have no respect for my work. Meredith Kercher is a famous example. Its something so outside my wheelhouse that I didnt even know it could me done. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. They were out of town and it was still spotless. I think he had mental issues too. So she wasnt in rigor at the home and was likely just starting to show signs while he was burrying her at the site. https://youtu.be/U8fe6Ckeh5A?t=210. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. Poor Bella was smothered with extreme force to her face that it left bruising. And all I can see is ShanAnns MLM addiction coupled with the desire to live well beyond her means, to give an impression that she was rich-rich-rich, which Im sure she envisioned as a way to promote her business get new people to sign on. Anyways, interesting theories guysthanks! The entire thing is one of the worst cases Ive ever heard of- and I think about those poor responders who retrieved the bodies May they find peace from those memories some day soon. You can pooh-pooh OCD if its not you, but OCD especially for someone with a chronic disease tends to be quite significant. . https://www.medicaldaily.com/what-forensic-scientist-doesnt-tell-you-7-postmortem-responses-dead-body-314404. Remember that Chris was sleeping in the basement at this time so they werent sharing a bed. Straight up facts. He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. while he killed them one after another. Pee and Poo Chris thought that she was dead? Do you think he ninja-attacked her the moment she entered the house? I am not saying he touched the purse. Meaning there should be no oil in her stomach just like cece. If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? Lo que ese animal hizo estuvo todo en su sano juicio, los borrachos dicen que hacen cosas indebidas por estar ebrios pero, este definitivamente es satans. Advertisement. After that, then everything started going bad and stressing him out. In reading about this case it would never occur to me to smother somebody in such a fashion. He may not of been able to face their killings but if he was distant, cold, towards her, like the reports say, he wouldnt of had a problem killing her by strangulation if he was emotionally distant. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. And if the girls mentioned a nikki shanann may just assume her friend. My husband and I wrestle and if he sits on my chest with my arms by my side, I cant move. Chokeholds and Strangleholds are used in martial arts, combat sports, self-defence, law enforcement and in military hand to hand combat applications. Was Niko Buried With Shan'ann Watts? But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? If we can believe his scenario, that also sounds like Shannn wasnt trying to kill her daughter like Chris thought, which meant neither of them killed her which leaves someone who must have entered the home by using an access code that wouldnt trip the alarm and I wonder who that might be ((cough*mistress*cough)) if Chriss scenario is correct of course! Addition. I think he snapped, pulled her off of Cece punched her in the face to knock her out and then strangled her with one hand. As someone who has OCD I would appreciate if everyone commenting here would look up the mental condition. Chris stated that his wife smothered her children and im sure hes lying but i was hoping to read somewhere here of proof that chris also smothered his kids. How did Shanann Watts die? parents are hardly ever at the ones to determine that nothing can be done to save their children. Cause if it was the way CW said she would have fought back. They asked him ways to murder somebody & he said shoot someone, hit them with a club, stab them, run them over, throw them off a cliff, a bunch of other weird ways but steering wide of strangling. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. Shannan was a hypochondriac, who was gonna turn her kids into the same. Thats why no defense wounds. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. He went from great dad to not wanting anything to do with them, me or any responsibilities. He needed to be executed. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. Can anyone comment about the oil content in the one childs stomach? Where was all the money from that house? ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. Its in the autopsy x. & he says ah um like yeah theres that too & sort of skips right over it. Page 453 Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. Also in his re-enactment they also didnt add up. If Shanann tried to claw his neck I would think he would have cuts there. Thanks! Also, wasnt her phone found in between couch cushions. Plenty of women do. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. He could have planned to go to work early that morning so as to avoid talking to Shanann. Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. Or do they just know? Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. And where do you think he did it? Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. Hed let her snuggle him that morning. I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. @Nick I think she was killed by a surprise carotid choke (blood choke) rendering her unconscious within 3-6 seconds, hence no defence injuries, and dead in 30 seconds at the most. Unless you count her phone. I expect they also make youtube channels of women doing things wrong to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things, If he killed her downstairs how would there have been no movement on main floor shortly after she got home. Bellas stomach contained 75 milliliters of green-black fluid, the report states, which was most likely from the oil tank she was placed inside. Do you think her phone ended up where it was because thats how and where it left her hand? He asked one time if he should go look for his familyhe did not ask again about looking and he did not seem overly concerned, the police report said. 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