It was impossible not to notice. Am I being overly sensitive? The sender writes anyway and says I need to put in the order for either blue and green enamel for next months collector teapot and Jane told me she didnt know. She simply could not comprehend that we had a procedure in place Im guessing because she did not put it in place herself. Then the email request gets ignored by everyone thinking someone else will do it until the LW actually points a finger and say, that means YOU, Wakeen. Ive now defaulted to kind regards for every single email regardless of content. This is the kind of comparison Im thinking of. Please let me know which date and time would suits you best is the most popular phrase on the web. Especially annoying if its a repeat offender one of my co-workers and I used to joke that it actually meant please give me advice so I can ignore it and do whatever I want anyway, and then blame you when it went wrong because then I can CYA and say well, I asked Meg Murry for her advice and carefully neglect to mention that I didnt actually follow her advice. That would make me investigate accordingly and resolve as applicable and reply with details of any action taken. This happens quite frequently in my current job and its quite normal. Some people are more formal than others. If the person who sends you emails with this is in is known for being demanding and bratty, then you have a problem, and it isnt that they say please advise in their emails. Do they already have cause the be upset with you? I also like Would love your input for similar situations. JMO of course. Is there a long term way to get people to stop giving us unsolicited sales calls? I dont typically send reminders because I figure you are a grown-up and you can (should be able to) manage your own deadlines. Bold is betterI can understand it for dates, times, conference rooms, key info of that sort. It is Something That Is Not Done in our culture (which tends to be very email/IM-focused). I hire people to know their jobs and make decisions. This is surprising to me that people are offended by please advise. I see it as completely neutral. I cant remember. He ended the email with please advise. Shed been told about that by other staff, so I reminded her of that event, and then said, this is one reason the parking procedure was put in place. When a new checkout opens up, if they say the first one, theres practically a riot to see who gets there first. I do it a lot too. She said because it didnt have a question Please let me know when it is completed. Author: Douglas That doesnt go away when its something that needs to be considered at a higher level. Register to get your text revised right away for FREE . The issue is that they want to find a delicate way, which implies I dont think you can handle a straightforward mention that Im still waiting on this. The desire to more delicate than that is what grates. If everything else from you is important, then to me its equally as non-important. ", The most useful app that I have ever found.I truly appreciate your efforts. This is the sixth call this week that Ive had from someone selling architectural features. Please let me know when it is complete. How can we move forward is similar in that respect, I think. Good morning SARA! Some dont want to take any responsibility. what the hell? Important part: Dont say anything you dont mean or that isnt true. Thank you in advance! 3) People who mark each of their emails as Important. Also, I use it when responding to others who have requested info from me. Can I help anyone? versus Who was next? Im guessing someone will chime in here and have a problem with kind regards. Im rapidly coming to that conclusion as well. . I just say, Hi can you tell me if blahblahblah? and just wait their response (if Im IM-ing them its not that urgent). But otherwise, I typically use something that apparently many other people find really irritating: Thoughts?. Its actually pretty nice, IMO I hate when someone calls me unexpectedly and wants me to look into some issue while Im in the middle of something (and hence most of the time I dont answer the phone if Im not expecting a call). I just love this). I usually say please advise when I am not sure what question I am asking. She then said What parking procedure? I would like to give some of that advice to the current staff that I manage. But in Namibian English, dear has come to be spelled dia. I spent a lot of time wondering who Dia was and why people were always thinking that was my first name, I just got really excited that someone else commenting here has lived in Namibia. Because it is deferential, I would view it as an obnoxious phrase only if used by a manager to a direct report and not vice versa. ", a real person to guide me, instead of some AI :)", The best feature of this service is that the text is edited by a human. Please let me know which option you prefer 6,500 results on the web Some examples from the web: So will you please let me know . I also use it like this. I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. Since that is what you actually want to know, couldnt you ask what are the options here? instead of please advise? This got me into trouble so many times. You obviously understand what they are saying but choose to read more of a personal message into it. 1. Thank you. or Hi, just following up if X and Y has been done yet? As in, Attached is the xyz report. I agree that using it the opposite way irritates. I admit Ive never heard of this interpretation of that closing. Extra formatting can just come off as shouting. It's the best online service that I have ever used! I dont mind it. I need to put in the order for either blue and green enamel for next months collector teapot, and I know you met with Jane about the collector line last Tuesday. April 1, 2012. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); https . I have had people say thanks for all you do, which is really nice once in a while. When I see it, I interpret it as, I dont expect you to have any objections or questions to this, so the next thing I should be sending you is my thanks to you for letting me know its done, and Im just going to get that out of the way right now. I make allowances in my head for the possibility that the sender doesnt actually mean that, but I always give a little mental grrr when I see it. Thats the thing, though. ****ATTENTION: These bases have minor defects and are sold as is. Then, if you ask me to please advise as to whether I agree with your proposed next steps, I am indeed happy to advise. If I am sending our a reminder, I usually just type just following up on the message I sent to you last week about A, B, and C or i just wanted to see if you had a chance to look at that e-mail I had sent to you the other day I do agree that it is hard to find a way to remind someone about something when you are just not sure if they had forgotten or if they are just swamped and are dealing with higher priorities. This answer is: Hide . I have no clue and no inclination to do anything else. Theyve usually established themselves as ineffective and rude, and in those cases, nothing they say will be not-annoying :), Yes! Im pretty sure all 200,000 plus employees at my company use it regularly! Yeah, thanks is my new sincerely and it does seem pretty silly when you think about it. Yea see because you made a statement rather than ask a question. But obviously it struck a nerve with me, because Ive been thinking about it all day. = Question Please tell me where you WENT. Came to say the exact same thing. Im fine with that when its an actual FYI email, but I see it a lot in more passive-aggressive contexts, where people want a response but arent going to ask for one. On the other hand, if you want a laugh (and you don't mind a bit of obscene language), read ScaryDuck's post: A bit of email etiquette. Well, often the reminder (friendly, gentle, otherwise) is for something totally annoying and bureaucratic, which no one wants to deal with, which is why they didnt respond in the first place. I suspect itd be relatively easy to write a business email assist function that would help people compose nicer, clearer, more consistent emails. I use it most with people that are either above me or that I dont really know so Im erring on the side of reverential language. We dont have a parking procedure. I resisted the urge to bang my head on her desk. Just a reminder that I needed X when you get a chance. Suggesting A Different Date Neutral phrases "I'm sorry, I won't be able to make it on Monday. Don't use the phrase, "Hope this helps" in an email. One thing you can do, is watch how other people close their emails and steal the best ideas from what you see. So now, any time I use that, it makes me laugh. I close with Please advise, and cc the original parties in conflict so they can all see Im trying to get an answer from someone at a higher pay grade than me that needs to weigh in. 3. It does seem a bit babyish, but I usually hear it used in an OMG I am so EXCITED about my upcoming fun event! way that is a bit more forgiving than if it was being used, say, to countdown to a work conference or something like that. Same as something like, what can we do about this? It can be a genuine question or it can be a thinly veiled way of saying I would like you to tell me how to help you not do something like this again.. What time shall we say? I dislike the gentle reminder it feels patronizing to me. Words only mean things in their contexts, though. Just adding a when you get a chance, thanks takes two seconds and is much more polite. But if I am looking for something from the other person, I totally feel the need to have the very last bit of the email reflect that. Oh man, Im on several listserves and several times a year someone requests a document, people flood inboxes with emails that say literally, please post and me too and thats it. 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