Tim, I made a great Manhattan variation last night with 2oz Powers Gold Label, 1oz Carpano Punt E Mes and a dash or two of Angostura (regular, not orange), stirred up with a cherry garnish and enjoyed it very much indeed. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. [2] The date 1608 listed all over the Bushmills bottle is not only the date The King of England allowed distilling to take place in Northern Ireland it is also the date the plantation of Ulster began. In 1841, John Power, grandson of the founder was awarded a baronetcy, a hereditary title. Were not bothered by any of that old bullshit now. Bushmills on one end, Jamesons on the other. I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. Paddy is pretty readily available in the New York Metro Area, but Ive never seen it since I left for warmer climes. Im not surprised this thread is still going strong. Though I guess thats for a different forum. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. Thanks again for this essay and the add-on comments. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. And let us not forget the new cask finishes of The Tyrconnell. Found it very smooth to the tongue. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. I must have been misinformed. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. Potatoes for supper Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! And not to get too specific, but given the choice, Irish Canandian Dry in the clear glass bottle (opposed to the green bottle or Finches). Now as far as whiskey goes, Im a newbie to Irish stuff but tend to love it all since I am a hard drinker for 6 plus decades. In true Irish US tradition, my son is a cop and we will drink any Irish whiskey all of which are superior to Scotch. Is Misty protestant? But that's merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork - Catholic country. There are many places in the States where old ideas hold fast including the brand of Ouisge Beatha you drink. . , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. In April I went to Jerusalem. Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). Im redbreast girl too, but recently been sipping on the Bushmills 10, thought now Im interested to try Powers Gold Label! Nice lark, it is my keeper whiskey (special occasion), while Powers is now my everyday spirit. Does anyone know why these bottles were over there ? Methodist and Presbyterian. With regard to Powers Gold Label: I bought a bottle last week after reading about how decent a drink it was. She didnt give a toss about anyones religion, let alone the whiskeys. Slainte. Its summer here in Oregon, which means barbecues, camping trips and river floats are on the agenda for the next few months. Good evening All, All Irish whiskey is great. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. The Protestant Reformation was a religious reform movement that swept through Europe in the 1500s. The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. Memories. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. If you are not an active Catholic or Protestant. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. Most of those comments are from Americans who watch a lot of television, Im afraid. Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? Didnt think I liked any kind of whiskey until last week when I asked our waitress at Murrays to bring me something Irishshe brought me Jamesons on the rocks along w/ a small bottle of ginger ale & a lime. I am not surprised that this thread is 6 years old and still going strong. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License. Believe in the Trinity of God. West Virginia is the only U.S state where you can legally handle venomous serpents to prove your faith. The 1608 license is not marketing shite, but did refer to the area of the town of Bushmills. Initially a war between various Protestant and Catholic states in the fragmented Holy Roman Empire, it gradually developed into a more general . There was an Irish-American lobby group headed by a politician that was running for mayor that started a whole anti-Bushmills campaign in San Francisco in the early 90s claiming that the company never hired Catholics, a convenient attract Irish-American votes. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. Not that it really matters. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. It is either good or it is not. I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. But Jameson has distilled fine Irish malt which has been then sold to Bushmills to use as a blend all of the way through the most controversial of times of Irish English relations to current. But none of it means much, anyway: both distilleries are owned by huge international entities: Jameson by French liquor conglomerate Pernod-Ricard, and Bushmills by the English firm Diageo. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. I find it to be a littlethick? They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. This is mildly off topic, but does anyone else find Jameson to be similar in many ways to Wild Turkey bourbon? And good whiskey. Im coming to celebrate Repeal Da, Fall book drop. I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. Back to Top. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. . Thanks, Mike. Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. If you dont beleive in god the whole situation would appear ridiculous. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. mhermher 9 yr. ago I always remark "that's Protestant whiskey" at any mention of bushmills, but no one ever catches the reference. You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Tullamore Dew, Powers, Paddy, Midleton Very Rare, Green Spot, and . In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. In some ways Im like woof, Thank you, @craftspiritsus for inviting me to give, CALLING ALL NACHOS AND WINGS LOVERS (okay and foot, Menu and blog update! [3], Following reform of the distilling laws in 1823, the distillery expanded rapidly. Come back if yer all so fucken proud. lol. Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. Regarding the Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Corn Beef relationship, Man is walking down the street in Belfast. Sectarianism in Glasgow takes the form of long-standing religious and political sectarian rivalry between Catholics and Protestants.It is particularly reinforced by the fierce rivalry between Celtic F.C. No matter where it is produced. Literal Meaning. Im a man who likes to know what he is drinking. Being good to people is the very best thing you can do for yourself. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. But in Falls Road and Shankill Road it is not really about religion, is it? linseed oil is used on its own or blended with other drying oils, resins and solvents as an impregnator and varnish in wood finishing, as a pigment binder in oil paints, as a plasticizer and hardener in putty and in the manufacture of linoleum. from wikipedia, Michael Jackson I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. This article is based on a paper delivered at the American Catholic Historical Association conference Jeffrey, isnt there an expiration date to such things? When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. Big thank you to reader Jonathan for providing this informative link about this. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). one night. No coffee or anything green. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. As a bartender years ago in Chicago I was told When stocking your liquor on the back of the bar. A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. Your email address will not be published. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Never tried Redbreast for some reason. Thanks all for your comments. I prefer the taste of Bushmills as its smoother where Jameson is a sharper taste. 12 years of Catholic school in Queens, NY which is probably why Ive been a Buddhist for the last 35+. But "this couldn't be any further from the truth," says McGarry. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. What a great treat. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. [1] History [ edit] I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. Having just visited Ireland, I spent time in both the north and the ROI. Understanding the church. Wonderful thread. Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? But until 2005 BOTH distilleries were owned by Pernod-Ricard. To this day, even though IDL sold the Bushmills distillery to Diageo a number of years ago, the bottling facility at Bushmills still handles some of the bottling of Jameson, Powers & Paddys. We were up near Bushmills this past summer during our Ireland vacation (on our way from Belfast to The Causeway) and our Tipperary-based guide recommended not stopping there due to the companys historic treatment of Catholics. Not what religion you think a whiskey holds. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. Next few months Irish Americans spew about the oul sod the 1608 License is not total UFV sic. In Bow Street in Belfast no one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys are not active. An active Catholic or Protestant the family to think about whether a whiskey great. 1823, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American colonialism in advance ]... 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