Any opinions? After camillus used up their remaining supply of dated pommels Camillus started using the tang stamping again on the blades. The brand started using tang stamps early enough, making it easy to tell the age of a Camillus knife. 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. Christopher, How to Date A Ka-Bar Knife (5 Unique Methods), How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods), How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice), How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods), How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New), How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More), How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. These sheaths are in a very different style from the We were allowed to keep them when dicharged. Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. Thank you, this is a very informative treatise on this knife. Do you have any additional information on what the 6-89 is and how it fits in the history. The good news is that I found multiple ways to determine how old your Camillus knife is. True, those origins are shrouded in a lot of poor occurrences but the knives stayed on to mark those eras and the good work of manufacturers in, Read More How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods)Continue. However it was a cheap copy of low quality steel! This is what Camillus was thinking about at the end of the war, inch Mark 2 with a M3 pommel. Similar blades were made for the Government by Case, Marbles, Kinfolks and others. and the empty draws. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com, AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. See Picture for identification. Now, the efficacy of this model relies on having an antique book (or maybe a knife expert with access to such a book) that you can date the knife with. These fakes are even made with materials that age fast, tricking you into thinking that the knife has indeed seen a lot of years. Besides showing you how to date a Camillus knife properly, I also give some tips to avoid falling into the fake vintage Camillus knife scam. 27. Many of us have been exposed to the fixed blade knife known popularly as the Air Force Survival Knife. Your email address will not be published. So, as far as I can tell the best evidence indicates that these were Army Air Force knives and not Navy knives. factory collection. She found the knife with the only identifying marks showing " Cammilus New York USA". In this early production from the spring of 1943 through to the middle of 1944 is where you'll find all the variables or variations with in the Mark 1 knives. Carried in Vietnam we doubt it. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). The bolt end of the handle is unmarked. You can send them to my email: majorhykr@gmail.com. silver. Camillus Kabar Knife History. The original contracts (August '59) for the JPK called for a 6" blade with threaded pommel attachment. by carrmillus Thu May 30, 2013 3:57 pm, Post These two knives are commonly identified as WW2 pilots knives. I have a knife stamped Ontario 2 80 which seems to be either an Air Force or Navy issue pilot survival knife. The Air Force Survival Knife is an excellent knife. Before you can regard them as a collectors item, though, you need to know that you are working with the, Read More How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More)Continue, I have written different guides on how to date different knives to a specific era but this one is different. Some extremely valid points! I know my knives - maybe not as well as my mother - but enough to write helpful guides for you. The leather will be treated with para-nitrophenol fungicide. View all posts by Major Hykr. As such, this knife was not intended as a frontiersman or bushcraft knife, per se. The The shady ones might lie about the real timeline of your knife so that they can under-price it and steal it from you. Camillus stagged bone grips with brass pins. knives under boxes and paperwork. As a result, the Ontario Knife Company developed a prototype based on the 1957 design that was first submitted by Marble. Another unmarked Prototype hunter with stagged Rosewoods Production date date 3/25/1943. Interesting article. Ontarios knife became procured by the U.S. Army and was issued a National Stock Number, NSN: 1095-01-530-0833 within the Federal Supply System. As a further development on the Air Force Survival Knife, the Ontario Knife Company offers a second-generation civilian version of the knife in its Special Purpose SP series of knives. The tang stamp shown here is known as Camillus' four line stamp. I am trying to find any information on a 7 inch U.S. Camillus. Example would be you have crashed landed and might be on your side up in the air. I have never heard it being issued in the Navy but can say without a doubt many all of us flight crew members were issued one. A few members here have posted examples of that knife with the typical Camillus Mark 1 hilt and the fullered blade normally associated with the 5 inch pilots knife, but yes they don't show up too often. I dont know if it has any markings that would help determine where and when manufactured. It appears that in 2006, Ontario Knife Company became the current vendor to the DoD of the Jet Pilot Survival Knife under the National Stock Number (NSN): 7340-00-098-4327. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, stagged Rosewood with brass pins Same as above but handle more rounded. Way cool! I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. Some shady knife enthusiasts might want to get the knife from you at a steal price or in a swap deal for something else. selected. the knife is a Camillus model number 5733. The problem with the drawing in Cole's III is there is no description of the finish or lack of one on the knife pictured, and as you said the parkerized ones have been very hard to come across. I will highly recommend this site! You mentioned the Ontario KNife Company briefly in the article. SKIP. That way, you have a more realistic approach to what you can expect and you dont beat yourself up if its looking harder than usual to pin a date on that fine, historic knife. I hope this helps. It has a decent leather scabbard with no hole in the tip and leather cords intact, as well as the stone with similar markings as others Ive seen. Probably not a Pro-Tec pointed dagger, but it's real novel. He believes these were ordered in 04/05/44. You need to get the knife out to cut your way out. In most of the places that Ive come across a Klein knife, it was either a military electricians knife or for another handyman. The 1954 update calls for the knife to have a sharpened clip point blade and an additional rivet to the sheath. I have three of these babies from my flying days with the U. S. Navy. I do know that it has the serrated spine and in outward appearance may be an original except for the handle. There are also extensive catalogs on the knife brand, making my work easier. Unbelievable piece. Any Further Details or assistance is greatly appreciated. The picture I posted is of a knife I had bid on in an auction, but did not win. I know they were all built to US Government Standards, but was there any difference in the performance of the knives issued. Some of the best knives that we know today either came before any of the World Wars or were made because of one or both of those wars. You would often find knife collectors and enthusiasts who know a lot about these blades at knife shows. Ive read reviews that claim the new ones (from Ontario) are not as good. 5665: Early 12/29/1939 prototype of the new Camillus design Finally, the knives I had would not hold a decent edge but may have had a sufficient edge in a land survival situation. Tom said that the Government contract was cancelled in 1984. If possible, seek the opinion of multiple experts before making a solid decision. This knife looks a lot like the original and with a little bit of use can be made to look old real quick. 5684 S50: Dated 8/21/1945 this design uses the Mark 2 blade, The handle was cut from the same belt using a sharpened piece of steel tubing to make washers then tightened down with a nut off an old tractor head. With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. I have 2 Camillus Knives that are similar but different. Woolworths, S3388: When the Marines formed the ParaMarines they needed a Thus, it took special care and attention to identify which company made which one, before going deeper to ascertain the date period around when the knife was made. Of course, they were sharp and most of them are older than us, but that doesnt mean we lost interest. by orvet Tue May 28, 2013 1:20 pm, Post In the early 2000s, the U.S. Army published requirements to private industry for an aviation survival knife to replace the aging Air Force Survival Knife. J-7 marked Kent with Sportsman etching and stagged I may be wrong but it may have been produced between 1970-1990, maybe in Asia. That stamp is different than the one used earlier. One of the nice things about this forum is having so many eyes available for looking. They is a lot more ingredients to the batch of pudding for these knives. that when Camillus got the bid for the Jet Pilot Knife Marbles made a deal Very nice! Saunders knives; and a few more knives under contract. Folding Knives from Camillus Cutlery Folding Knives Handle Color Black Select from a variety of quality Camillus and Western folding knife styles and folding knives that include liner locks, lock backs and frame locks. And after the war, they apparently were interested in fulfilling the new post-war military scout knife specification, MIL-K-818, and . I have a 5 knife marked Ontario 10-76. The Camillus Cutlery company also produced: Their production capacity was expanded during the second world war when they had to manufacture a lot of high-quality knives to meet the needs of the soldiers shipping off to war. The stamping was kind of inconsistent from my research. Thanks for sharing. You are able to get the knife because it is dummy corded to you. The Air Force Survival Knife has had a storied, yet obscure, history. These knives should be professionally serviced by a They might choose to, but be prepared to pay for their skills and knowledge also. What is the white dot on the handle? I am about to show her this blog post and additionally rub it in a little! steel domed rivets. The iconic design features of the knife, that have characterized its look, have remained unchanged since its inception. The second question that arises concerning some of the features of this knife is the purpose of the two holes in the blade guard. Try any of the methods above to identify the ka-bar knife you have, and provide a very good estimate of the date when it launched also. It may add to your history file. Likewise, dont just take their dates for it. This was one they wanted to make but never did. Sent to the Jeffersonville Quartermaster, it is essentially a 6 Made after march 1985 to 2006. Opening locked doors and smashing car windows. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short], Re: Camillus Pilot Survival Knives [long or short]. I havent had the opportunity to measure it as its not in my possession and never was, I simply saw it. Find out more below. So Ive read that one way to tell a WW2 Kabar is the pommel will be pinned from both sides as well as peened. 5684 L77A: Camillus tried to talk Naval Ordnance into using factory reference collection. Schrade Knife Identification (www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us) Schrade Knives (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) Victorinox. Marbles taught Camillus how to do it. http://usmilitaryknives.com/knife_knotes_7.htm. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. Phil, Thanks for your work. Knife #1 and #2 were never found in the factory collection years ago, this It was enlightening to discover that there is very little information available on the background and origins of this knife. One of the challenges in dating a ka-bar knife that I mentioned above is the loss of original catalogs which these knives were sold with. Camillus knives may contain one to six individual blades, knife use caution when opening them. Don't know how durable or even if it is any good. Still,, Read More How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods)Continue, The Case Kodiak is one of the most interesting exports from the company and continues to command a high price today. surely wasn't in Vietnam unless it was with a tourist. small file transitional Camillus WW2 pilots knife.jpg. It is WW II era and dual tang marked and etched. My question is based upon the fact that the handle is not the leather disks type that Im used to seeing as Ive owned several, this knife in question has black plastic or rubber washers on the handle instead. Is this unusual? blade and solid spun rivets for the military. The Ontario Knife Company identifies this knife as the 499 Air Force Survival Knife on their website. I have little knowledge on the Use of it in Vietnam, that said, I cant find much details. spacer arrangements. It isnt worth that much plus its actually a pretty good knife. Thanks for all the photos. You are using an out of date browser. Keep up the great work. Some companies marked them and some did not. The Air Force Survival Knife will be around for a very long time. The tang stamp on this knife is post Government contract era. I have had this since about 1978 and Im sure the knife itself is a few years older than that. Wonderful read! I know how well "Orvet" makes customs. This marking is post 1990 and is the current marking, it We can go down the list for all the contractors. if it was in Vietnam it must have been with some other folks not the US [emailprotected], Thanks for letting me know that, Murphy. The bolt has a chip near the center so maybe it was well used as a hammer. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, generate quite a few questions so we hope this is a help to a few folks. Plus the rubber is just about the best thing for keeping a knife grippy even after you've gotten into messy parts of processing game. It is a Japanese made copy of the US Air Force Survival knife and was sold through the US military exchanges. The blade markings are not specified on the Camillus drawing. brass pins holding stagged bone over black plastic liners. At a time like this, when not all dealers can be trusted, you need to be on guard. It does, however, have a small Japan stamped in the blade at the hilt. This was where he first got a taste for cutlery, which would later shape the man he became and the company he launched. Camillus wanted to send the knife with a hack saw blade attached to I, too, have one that has a small Japan stamped on the blade at the hilt. Not Adopted, Case and Catt got the Q knife Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. S1408: This is a prototype Camillus sent in to alter the with Rosewood grips. Im working on making one of these for a friend who is currently at the Air Force Academy and this article was incredibly helpful, thank you! USMC Raider reproduction with fine pewter handle. The knife was probably modified by a previous owner. Q30: WW II Prototype made for the 6 inch Hunting knife If you have any of those knives, it wouldnt be out of place to salute it for its commendable service. Why? Hoping to try and date them but I am finding conflicting information. it's nice to finely see actual examples of the parkerized knives with no branch of service. The sheath shall be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-271, The sheath leather shall be 8/64-inch-thick. One is the "Shark.". Dealers and retailers of the knife usually let older catalogs rot, lost them, or simply misplaced them when a new batch of Ka-bar knives came in. Listed here we will discuss a few items that Rosewood and steel domed rivets. I will send you pics if you want but the condition is probably average or less but thats a guess. In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. The serrated spine on this knife is part of the functional requirements for this knife. After all, that is what they practically do for a living. Since the manufacturers maintained it themselves, its a reasonably accurate way to tell the era that a knife came from. Today, heres all you need to know about dating your ka-bar knife as effectively as possible. Here is an example what I'm talking about, this is the grouping of Mark 1 knives with the designation of MARK 1 on the ricasso and treated blades. I'll leave it at this, there is some conjecture out there on what these knives might or might not be. S-3647 A prototype that was to have a 10 MM screw compass Some had been made before the time, and they dont have the exact specs as above. The knifes performance was dependent on the users knowledge and skills. Well I got my first one from and Army Helicopter pilot in Germany 1963. 1200 dozen made in Contact the Ontario Knife Company. Thus, when the Ka-bar knife company was changing hands, it was also getting different stamps and logos. Companies interested in gaining the government contract received these requirements and submitted proposals for consideration based on those requirements. Thanks. (Author's note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II's than anyone else, though the Marines still called the Camillus-designed Mark II knife "the Ka-Bar.") The New-and-Improved Camillus M3 In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. After all, we can also use the form of the knife to estimate what era it came in. large bakelite pommel and multiple spacers. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. Thank you for the history. If you, Read More How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New)Continue, Barlow knives are considered by some knife collectors to be up there with the 1918 trench knife. Thanks for your help. They may allow you to send it to them to get refurbished. Some of the knives have no branch of service marking on them. There were a few more hand changes of the business over the years but by then, we had entered the modern era of the knives. 5683 L75: The Camillus Mark 1 prototype reference piece. The OP had such and an easy question, one would think. The Camillus Cutlery company closed shop in 2007, only to be resurrected in 2009 by Acme United Corporation, which acquired the naming rights. If you would like, I could send you a photo of this knife. Thick blade and two piece rivets were replaced with a thinner PS If you buy the knife today, the seller might include a newer sheath just to promote better knife safety for you. We have been told these knives were carried by various elite The M3 knife consists of 3 pressed steel parts: The blade, the hilt and the pommel washer. The first bullet point was in an initial version of the article. I got my first one from an electricians mate on the CG Cutter I was serving aboard back in the 70s. Also, note that not all old Ka-bar knives were used in the war. Hi. Here is the basic history of this knife. It was common for everything in a survival vest to have a lanyard. and sold through the PX system as well. the font is a bit off but hard to tell apart if you do not have the two together at the same time. Im pretty sure the 80 doesnt mean 1980 since Ive possessed it at least a couple years prior. There are a lot more than that, but the table above is a great place to start. I believe the two holes in the blade guard was to dummy cord the knife. However, the essential features of the knife have remained constant throughout the life of the knife. quick. Because of this, an exact dating system is impossible. You are correct. Otherwise, have someone who does. Interesting information. 5684: This is the WW II USMC blade marked knife in the touched them in anyway, as you see them is how they were in the showroom. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. These markings will usually show on the tang since they are less likely to wear and be scratched off there. You pull the knife out but drop it. The knife was originally designed in 1957 as a joint issue between the Navy Weapons Bureau and the Marbles Arms Company. Talking With Knife Collectors & Dealers: By having a fruitful conversation with knife collectors and dealers, you can also identify the Kabar Camillus knife. The pilots, survival, sheathed, hunting knife shall consist of a metal blade with a leather grip, riveted butt plate, guard, guard and end plates, leather sheath with a pocket for containing the sharpening stone, nylon laces, and a metal sheath protector to prevent the tip of the knife from penetrating the bottom or underside of the sheath. I believe youre more interested in dating the vintage ones, though, so the other era guides on that list are best suited to your needs. I apologize for the delay in responding to your question. Below are some timelines for you to explore:Tang StampStamp DesignExtra MarkingsDateUnion Cutlery Co., Tidioute, Pa;Union Cut. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex It's easy! However, because of Marbles premature manufacturing of the knife before it was awarded a government contract, the rest of the world gained the privilege to own this knife. The Newer one is by Camillus the older one I got given to by my uncle, who got it from someone in Vietnam. However, it was particularly designed for use by forces in need of a close combat knife, such as Airborne Units and Army Rangers, so these units received priority for the M3 at the start of . I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. Never knew that opinions could be this varied. Do you think your Camillus is older than your friends, but neither is sure? camillus knife identification. I have not Okay, maybe not fakes. Ive had a couple of the Camillus knives and they had the years indicated: 1975 and 1981. If you, Read More How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New)Continue, Some of the best knives that we know today either came before any of the World Wars or were made because of one or both of those wars. I have a Valor #998 Japan Jet Pilot Knife utilized in Vietnam given to my uncle, who gave it to me. Mine is an old C make still kept in my truck. The serrated spine was designed to cut through the aluminum skin surrounding the airframes of Korean and Vietnam War-era aircraft. the font is a bit off but hard to tell apart if you do not have the two However, the registrations for all registered products containing salicylanilide as an active ingredient have been canceled. JavaScript is disabled. joined the originals, now we have all that were present at the time of the The Leather washers may have been replaced with the black ones. The sharpened clip point on the blade allows the pilot to punch a hole in the aluminum then use the knife spine as a hasty saw to cut through the aircraft skin during an aircraft egress situation. Maybe a high school classmate possibly but I dont know. In New York City. By the close of 1943, a satisfactory method was applied. With decades of experience under his belt, Adolph spearheaded the growth and expansion of the Camillus knife company into what we know it as today. Navy didn't agree. rivets. What had occurred was corrosion issues, through the second half of 1943, there was a lot of discussion from the BuOrd and contractors to remediate the issue. Dustin- Great information! Later, after service members began returning from Vietnam, the military-grade issued knives began to be seen on the market. Thanks for the feedback. These markings will usually show on the tang since they are less likely to wear and be scratched off there. Like it was with dating kissing crane knives, establishing the era that a Ka-bar knife came from can be a bit challenging. Appreciating the persistence you put into your site and in depth information you provide. Required fields are marked *. scabbard marked with the Eagle, Globe and Anchor is a current reproduction Sign up for a new account in our community. repro has a very short and sharply curved false edge. And, just above Japan is stamped Sportsword, perhaps the manufacturer of this copy? I have no idea how long it had been sitting there. While researching this knife I discovered that Camillus, the same manufacturer as the iconic Kabar fighting knife, was the main producer of these knives. A German himself, and having spent enough time in the U.S.A. to know the market landscape, this business venture was not difficult for him. They adopted the single pin I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. The Camillus S1765P USAF Utility Knife Tobias Gibson 7.5K views 2 years ago Rusty US Pilot Knife 1960's Restoration Lost & Restored 1.2M views 1 year ago Five US Military Pocket Knives from. current model. When WWI and WWII came along, Adolph shifted the focus of the company to cater to U.S. soldiers and the Allied Forces. Moreover, the requirement for having a standard survival knife for pilots and aircrews across the DoD was due to economic considerations and budgeting constraints at the time which fostered standardization across the military services. Its blade is double-edged and has a length of 170mm (6 11/16 inches). Since the knife was not making it to only American troops but the allies, the demand was genuinely high. Western made two: one with a 6-inch blade, the G46-6, and one with a 5-inch blade, the G46-5. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. Ka-bar knives are not made like they used to be anymore. The M3 trench knife or M3 fighting knife was an American military combat knife first issued in March 1943. Meet The Camillus Pro Staff Survivalists, Hunters, Military and more Camillus Design Partners Knives, machetes and tools designed by the best in the business Social Photos #camillus Acme United Corporation 1 Waterview Drive, Suite 200, Shelton, CT 06484 by glennbad Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:48 am, Post 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. Christopher, How to Date a Camillus Knife Effectively (1902 2007), How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods), How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice), How to Date a Cattaraugus Knife (5 Methods Explained), How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods), How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New), How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods). We have seen it in outfitter stores, marketed on the internet, and may even have owned one. Adolph Kastor, the founder of the Camillus cutlery company, came to the U.S.A at the age of 14. I have pictures from a 1946 Camillus catalog titled Knives that went to war. Check the beautiful knives below: That guide alone is not enough to go on, but it gives you a general clue into your knifes era. It is marked U.S.N over MARK I. Can you say more about how Ontario played a role in the Survival Knifes evolution ? Ken Spielvogel - The "Accumulator" of knives- "The Talking Knives". There was a metal guard that fit over the end of the blade when the folding machete was closed. It doesn't sit flush my guess is it was replaced. I personally looked into every draw and found these The knives illustrated in Post #5 could had been fabricated in that transitional phase, or part of sample packs for the Navy salt spray tests, but just a theory. These were in issue up to 2000 as for as Im aware. I've heard arguments on both sides, but as of yet I'd be uncomfortable moving the positions beyond the level of opinion. Your email address will not be published. Im happy to see that youre entering the world of knife collection. I just bought this knife from Ontario Knife Company. The leather for the grip will be cut into washers, 1/8 inch in thickness. This knife looks a lot Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. Camillus 1996 Combination Folding Knife USN $24.99 1 bid $5.60 shipping 3d 14h Vintage Camillus New York USA Santa Fe Stoneworks Premium Folding Pocket Knife $84.99 Was: $99.99 or Best Offer SPONSORED Vintage 4 Blade CAMILLUS 1981 USA Military Survival Pocket Knife - SKU 1617 I attach a photo of the peened pommel that makes this 6" a 1960 model: Hi. 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