Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? And I followed a dress code. And we met. I was snared by your wrist. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. So I started just taking notes on the radio because I heard it. Thats the percentage of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 who have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the CDC. GROSS: You forced yourself in the position of having him hear you play? SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. No more? But through the process of making the record and all the things that go with that, the hours and the tedium, it got easier for us to have conversations, not because we were doing the work of addressing the problems, but because we found common ground on something again, which has always been music and words.. feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows, He then shared his symptoms and expressed his gratitude for getting vaccinated: Lotta sinus drainage type stuff, scratchy in my throat and some muscle aches but no cough or breathing issues fyi. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. GROSS: I think its time for another break. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. I was doing fine, and then, I was just like no sound would come out of my mouth. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. And I got awarded a scholarship to be able to go to those. GROSS: How did you find that out? 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If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer, musician Amanda Shires. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Not saying something is not helping. I didnt believe it. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. 1,286 talking about this. A lark in the shower from the night to the morning after. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. I am your man. GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. But she was very good at keeping a lot of secrets. So its probably important to stay alive before you start questioning your liberty.. GROSS: Yeah. Amanda Shires was named emerging artist of the year at the 2017 Americana Music and Honors Awards Ceremony. So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. Jason Isbell Releases Death Wish' From New Album And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. Thanks., RELATED: Jason Isbell slams Morgan Wallens appearance at Grand Ole Opry: Not surprised Just sad, Jason Isbell on the road, hummingbirds, fan requests and critical thinking in America, Jason Isbell on COVID vaccine mandates at concerts: No, were not taking away your freedom. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. You can keep the car and the house. SHIRES: Thank you so much. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. 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Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. And so you know Ill say, I dont know, but no ones going to be asking me. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. GROSS: Oh, yeah. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. Wills was the father of western swing. So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. What made you think of yourself as his disciple? You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. GROSS: Your mother earlier in her life worked as a bail bondsman, right? But this part of my life in our marriage was difficult. People dont have to come to a concert, Isbell said. I said, I just wrote this song. What happened between now and then? It de-stigmatizes the conversation. So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. And I told my mom to come over because I had something to show her. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. Shires new album, Take It Like A Man, includes several songs she wrote that came out of a difficult period in her marriage to Jason Isbell. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. Maintaining that vigilance and devoting necessary energy and attention to confronting and correcting not only sexual wrongdoing but warped thinking can be all-consuming. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. When do you show him the songs? Weve had legal abortions for 50 years and now, suddenly, a long-held right will be illegal. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. The song is called Empty Cups.. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. And my stuff worked. Musician Adia Victoria also tweeted at Isbell and praised the artist for continuing to put the health and safety ofhis crew, my band, venue employees and fans first and foremost, to which he replied with three heart emojis. I own one of his guitars and. And for a lot of folks, that can be the most boring part of the three-part string ensemble thing. And but I think for the players in the band, they took me seriously as a player. She was going to school. That last talk left me a makeup rainbow of tears, turned everything blurry. And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. But I did move a couple of times out of the house, not because it was a leaving thing, but because I didnt want to do anything that would harm, you know, make it worse. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. No way. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. Maybe I was asking for a little too much. Life cant help but interfere. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. She makes the decision before it gets to the point where she makes a mistake, and I like that. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. Im Terry Gross. And why did you want to work it into a song? Say whatever feels better or whatever. And that, to me, was incredible, because they had abortions in what was a pre-Roe v. Wade environment and theyre only now sharing their stories for the first time. We try to have as much fun as possible singing a bunch of sad-ass songs, he said from the stage with one of the few grins hed allow himself. It felt like maybe wed both leave at the same time. GROSS: Well, in 2020, you and your husband, Jason Isbell, recorded a duet of a song you wrote called The Problem. And the song is from the perspective of a teenage couple. Thank you for doing the interview. And because I was in the time of my life where I was having a disconnect in my marriage and not feeling great in with music but I discovered that it takes a lot to be vulnerable, and it takes a lot to talk to folks and to understand each other. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. When we overturn Roe, we risk going back to, Oh, now same-sex marriages cant happen. Hearing Shires spell that out is invigorating. Ive found and scrounged and continued to for every interview that hes done in any form and any language. And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. We would sleep on the floor in the closet there because she would do the night shift, because she would was going to school in the daytime for being a nurse. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. The sound of silence rings in every room. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? SHIRES: (Singing) Im well aware of what the nights made of. The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Isbell stated the response he has received from people who work at the venues and in the music business has been positive because they understand we could go back to not working at all, adding that smaller venues might not be able to reopen if they go through another round of shutdowns. Which brings up the question, why were Jason and I, and Margo Price, the biggest celebrities quasi-celebrities at the march in Nashville? And then, we did it, sing the song. Just admit Im what you want. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. 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