And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. In the transcript, I wrote it was really just focused on: What happened the night you went into foster care? As in her case, first responders had experienced similar delays in finding and reaching the building, and difficulties removing Driver once they did due to the same accessibility issues. [c] Chewing was difficult as well, and she had a feeding tube inserted. Theres people who span all different kinds of experiences. The Inquirer story came out in November 2020. Did she lie? In her reading, Tracy came across an article that congratulated Mackenzie Fierceton, a University of Pennsylvania graduate, on being named a Rhodes Scholar. [3], Through her attorney, Morrison gave a statement, her only one so far, on the case: "Mackenzie is deeply loved by her mom and family. In The New Yorker article, one teacher had written: She showed up at my classroom door with a bloodied and battered face and then fainted., And then, Rachel Aviv, the reporter also quotes Sherry McClain, who was a nurse who was assigned to you, she said: She had two black eyes, and her hair was full of blood. So now Im looking at one American city and one English city and comparing the experiences of youth who crossed over from the child welfare system to the criminal justice system in both of those cities and kind of how the geopolitical environment and local policies and practices might impact the rate of youth crossing over and their experiences.Then its going to be a qualitative study in just really trying to understand their experiences from their voices, which is something that I often find missing from research. What happened after you went out of the hospital? But once I got out of the hospital and I learned that information, I remembered that a classmate had died in the same basement about 16 months earlier. I had no idea what she already knew. It didnt, though, to the University of Pennsylvania. [2], One day in September 2014, she told the history teacher about Lovelace's abuse. Right. And so can you talk a little bit about your research? They would not do so, however, if she agreed to withdraw from the scholarship, surrender the Latin honors that had accompanied her degree, and take a mandatory leave for "counseling and support" before receiving her master's. And I think its true. The 23-year-old planned to use. Mackenzie, for her part, was accepted to the University of Pennsylvania and, in her sophomore year, won a Rhodes Scholarship. When asked what she might have done differently, Fierceton told the Chronicle that while she had at some points wished she had never applied to Penn, and later considered rephrasing some of the things she wrote on her essays and applications, "[w]here I've landed is that I have a right to write about my experiences as I experienced them. But when youre filling out a box where its yes or no and theres no more information or kind of! box [laughs], its like you have to fit yourself in, saying: Are you the first in your family to attend? Mackenzie Fierceton is the child of a doctor who attended a private prep school in a wealthy suburb. RG: Well, Mackenzie, thank you so much for joining me and sharing your story. "She was falling apart under the academic stresses at school and was exhausted, and I believe looking for an out." So I kind of simplified that in a sentence to make my point of what I wanted to study, which was the foster-care-to-prison pipeline, which is also what I ultimately ended up doing my Ph.D. on and what I just started this year. "[2], Fierceton was one of 15 freshmen made Civic Scholars, a program focused on social justice and community service, with an emphasis on confronting the intersections of identity and privilege. So the Rhodes Trust ended up after their quote-investigation, and I submitted all the evidence, they ended up still recommending that my scholarship be rescinded, uh, but I had another opportunity to respond to their report, which I absolutely wanted to do. And again, people, including Penn administrators, have the perception of I think the stereotype and my friend Anea Moore, whos a Rhodes Scholar and graduate of Penn who founded Penn first or co-founded it had a really great quote in The New Yorker about we arent all, quote-unquote something along the lines of like impoverished, inner city kids who go to crumbling public schools as the wider media portrays us to be. Because that was one of the ones that really blew my mind. Because thats not how we understand poverty. Some people were very much on my side; some people were very much, I think, in that sort of cognitive dissonance of: This cant be true because if it can, then Im in danger. But that was definitely a driving force for why I decided, ultimately, to withdraw because I felt like: OK, federal prison is no joke. Who are your biological family? And then as the different internships, and then I went to get my masters in social work and all of this happened, I started to see that continue in different capacities while I was in different roles, seeing that theme in this relationship between foster care and the criminal justice system. She thought that he had been very quickly removed from the building. My life is over, Im in the hospital, Im at rock bottom. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. Her history teacher described the incident this way: She showed up at my classroom door with a bloodied and battered face and then fainted., Mackenzie was hospitalized. Fierceton believes it was likely sent by Morrison or one of her close relatives. One trigger for the beatings was sexual abuse by one of her mother's boyfriends, Henry Lovelace, Jr., a fitness trainer and multiple winner of the Missouri's Strongest Man competition in his weight class, which her mother warned her never to talk about. She is suing Penn for defamation, arguing its real goal in investigating her was to discredit her as a witness in and retaliate for a wrongful death suit filed against the university by the widow of a fellow student which Fierceton instigated. The prosecutor eventually dropped the charges and the arrest record was expunged. And I dont remember exactly what their statement was, but they disputed it. [3] In high school there, Fierceton was a model student. And did they say anything along those lines? But its relevant to financial aid and the student should check whatever box is going to give them most access to financial aid, which would be yes to both questions. Mackenzies critics even began nitpicking how much blood was in her hair while she was in the intensive care unit. And how much confidence do you have that that anonymous complainer was Carrie, your biological mother. It called attention to claims, such as the one in her application essay, that by the time she was six she "knew every police officer in my county by their first name", a claim Fierceton herself admitted was untrue and born of her fear of her biological family when she wrote it. Raised in Chesterfield, Missouri, a West County suburb of St. Louis, she attended and graduated from the Whitfield School in Creve Coeur. Cause then you cant think that it could be you. They have since claimed that that is not what they [laughs] insinuated, I believe my former lawyer spoke to it in The New Yorker piece. And it felt very similar that, well, this cant be real. It was: Shes a spoiled little brat. And do you know Linda Tirado? And when I asked her again when I was gathering all this evidence in 2020, she gave me the same answer of: I dont believe its relevant, and this box isnt relevant to admission. [5] Lovelace was also arrested and charged with sexual abuse. And we have our own specific grad school definitions. Because processes become Kafkaesque very quickly. Morrison told White in an email. The reporter had assumed based on her status as a FGLI student which stands for first-generation, low-income that she had been poor her entire life. Mhmm. And its striking to see just the continuing to push of what happened. The 35-year-old has been hit with two warrants for his arrest. So thats the background of him. But I agreed to come into this Zoom meeting and this was the last day of November 2020. After her mother left, Fierceton got out of bed, found a spare set of keys and drove herself to school. But part of it is funding decisions. Right. I do think that it is a huge defense mechanism that people deploy. Yeah, it was, things like that where I simplified all of these foster kids that youre living with a biological family who have kids, which I would say are foster siblings. MF: She, to my knowledge, has stuck by that. Anything in particular jump out at you after having read back over that transcript? She feared that her mother had inflicted the injuries, perhaps out of jealousy that Lovelace was attracted to her, even as it seemed to Fierceton that Morrison was "offering [her] up to him on a silver platter". I think [its] called Penn First, I believe, and it seems like you socially spent a lot of time with them? And I also think we have this racist and classist notion of who can be an abuser or who can cause harm. MF: So [laughs] I feel like I could go on for hours about that. Because thats not how we understand poverty. I think there were almost 30 of those letters again, very similar to who had given statements in the past to corroborate my abuse as well as leaders in the FGLI community saying yes, we started this community. Its hard to say. Uh, my lawyer. Its practically half of Americans, or more. Not as something that is for the benefit of the MacKenzies, the people who were being brought into the school, but actually for the benefit of the university itself, its image and also for the students. ", However, in its report, Penn notes that Fierceton had, in an essay (which it allows may not have actually been submitted) for her application for a travel, The Rhodes report acknowledged her documentation of an email she wrote to a reporter at the, Penn's investigation noted that even if Fierceton had been referring to the Chesterfield police rather than the. So that was what the actual poem and personal statement was about [laughs.] A former teacher in elementary school recalled that in one of those calls, Morrison made a reference to an earlier discussion of Fierceton's mental illness; the teacher did not remember any such conversation. RG: Rather than it being for the purpose of benefiting the students themselves. Yeah. as a kid. "You can't couch-surf in a pandemic", Norton said. As youve had time to sort through this, what do you think was driving Penn to go through this process, which they had to know, at some level, would cost them? I have some of my own theories, but I want to hear yours. "Once you do something that the University sees as undermining its quest for power and prestige, it will not think twice about discarding you, humiliating you, and retaliating against you, which is exactly what they did" said one SP2 student in support of Fierceton. She had had a fairly upper middle class life yet was working at multiple fast food restaurants and barely getting by. Our focus is not on the debate it reviews over Mackenzie Fierceton's accounts of her life, though we affirm her integrity. But the outline of the story is this: Mackenzie was raised in a wealthy St. Louis suburb by a single mother who was repeatedly abusive, according to two state agencies. ", Morrison said. Although she had not attended an orientation session for first-generation/low-income (FGLI) students she had been invited to, on campus she began attending meetings and gatherings of Penn First, an FGLI student group founded the preceding year to pressure Penn to better accommodate their needs, such as not closing dormitories and cafeterias over breaks since many FGLI students could not, for various reasons, return home during those periods. You have a good education and youre clearly smart. "[20][m] A syndicated morning radio show named Fierceton its "donkey of the day". Like questioning: How much blood? MF: No, I found it before. Fierceton said later that she had never used the word "poor" to describe herself or her childhood. Teen Mom alum Mackenzie Edwards' husband Ryan Edwards is to be arrested soon. Fierceton wished that she had been more willing to correct mistaken impressions that she might have made and at the time "just kind of crumbled behind the pressure. And even now, The New Yorker quotes a lot from my childhood journals describing my abuse. RG: She, about 10 years ago, she wrote a comment I think on a Gawker post or something like that that we ended up then re-publishing as an essay at The Huffington Post about, and it was about her life in poverty, and it went viral, millions of people read it, extremely well-written piece. [1], Shortly after Penn filed its response, the Chronicle of Higher Education reported on the story. "While it is possible that [she] was the cause of the alleged injuries," she wrote a month afterward, "the court cannot make that finding by a preponderance of the evidence based on the evidence presented." That was my personal statement. Like there is more attention to systemic poverty and trying to keep children in their homes to begin with, I would say, which is important, because if you can keep kids in their homes, then theyre not in the system and facing that foster-to-prison pipeline. And that felt very powerful in an institution where the overwhelming majority of people are coming from two-parent households, extremely wealthy, like a whole nother level of wealth that I have really ever seen, in my life in terms of just around me, like the 1 percent to the 0.001 percent. She was diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome and released after three weeks. MF: verbally. I want to talk about where you think that pushback came from. I didnt really know what it was going to be, but I feel like its always good to have someone with you. And it started with, this paragraph-and-a-half of waking up in the hospital and then, like you said, looking at my face, not recognizing myself, and kind of describing what I felt like and what the room looked like. And you saw that playing out right away, right, when your biological mother was first arrested? Im curious, having dealt with so many people along the way, who are questioning your story, how do you feel like the boxes play into this? In early 2022, after stories about her struggle with Penn and the Rhodes Trust received national attention from stories in The Chronicle of Higher Education and The New Yorker, commentators took the university, and American elite higher education in general, to task for its use of the story of Fierceton and some other recent Rhodes recipients as poverty porn and its shifting definition of an FGLI student. I think [its] called Penn First, I believe, and it seems like you socially spent a lot of time with them? Fierceton was born August 9, 1997, under the name Mackenzie Terrell, in Danbury, Connecticut,[1] to Carrie Morrison, a physician who would later head the breast imaging department at St. Luke's Hospital in Chesterfield, where the couple lived. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. Cause Ive just wanted to go on with my life and, you know, live it. RG: And one of the main things they pointed to was that she had gone to this private school . Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes Scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school and scholarship applications.NY Post photo composite [2], Brandt interviewed Morrison, who described herself and her daughter as "two peas in a pod". Ultimately, she lost her Rhodes Scholarship, and Penn withheld her masters degree, demanding a letter of apology. And I think psychologically one way people feel safer about it is to say: No, that happens to other people. Her junior year at Whitfield, a prestigious prep school, Mackenzie showed up to school one day in a terrible state. Penn claims that was meant purely for purposes of the program, to attract as many students as possible who could benefit from participation in it. And so I did definitely have that kind of like: I have no idea what else is going to convince these people. In April, the trust's investigative committee produced a 15-page report praising Fierceton as "gifted, driven, and charismatic" but concluding ultimately that she "created and repeatedly shared false narratives about herself", noting in particular her references to injuries she was treated for in her September 2014 hospital stay that are not reflected in her medical records. Within days of the article being published, the universitys general counsel was in touch with Mackenzies mother. Fierceton wrote to SP2 dean Sara Bachman complaining about the interview, saying she felt "worthlessness, hopelessness, and shame" for a week afterwards. RG: Right. MF: Yeah. verbally. [9][3], In her sophomore year, Fierceton, already majoring in political science,[3] decided to pursue social work as a career, with the goal of being a voice for children in foster care like the ones she had come to know. And then The New Yorker adds in parentheses that a Penn spokesperson says: Yeah, well, thats not the definition that we use. In retrospect, I just honestly wish I had never written about those people, but it was kind of one of those things where I was like: OK, I need to make my point. She expressed some concern to Penn staff that if she won, the media attention might incite her mother and her family to attack her reputation, and expressed on a form she filed with Penn as part of the process a concern of hers that FGLI students such as herself were "pressured to be someone they were not amidst their application process." No, I cant. While the investigators understood, they also wrote that the limited information she provided may have been more likely to elicit an answer favorable to her. I was like: Great. I think they do have a richer experience if they have more diversity around them, but that is more the point. And she had gone to a private school growing up. The Inquirer story came out in November 2020. Its a very under-researched field. Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? MF: And its mentioned briefly. And I turned over all this information to his widow. Or is that it separates two into one? And then throughout the now a year and a half process [laughs] of different sort of invented processes that happened, eventually the university was like: OK, I guess shes low-income. Ultimately she decided to apply for the scholarship, in which she proposed to expand on the subject of her undergraduate thesis, the intertwining of the foster care and juvenile justice systems, to "continue to try to move forward in my life. So they heard from her and immediately they call you into a meeting with the deputy provost at the time, Beth Winkelstein . The kind of reporting we do is essential to democracy, but it is not easy, cheap, or profitable. How much research has been done on the foster-care-to-prison-pipeline? [2], Fierceton refused, and a week before she withdrew from the Rhodes Scholarship, Penn's Office of Student Conduct (OSC) notified Fierceton it, too, would be investigating. MF: So thats the background of him. Fierceton applied for the Rhodes Scholarship with assistance from Penn's Center for Undergraduate Research and Fellowships. So I could imagine why at some point youd be like, you know what, Im just not going to keep taking Ls here. And she ended up responding right away, and asked to get on a phone call. But the acclaim quickly devolved into acrimony as the university and the Rhodes Trust began questioning aspects of Fiercetons backstory. Enough blood? So how is a person who is filling out this application supposed to know what definition youre supposed to use? Attached were copies of the Missouri court orders expunging Morrison's arrest and removing her name from the DSS registry. One of them, to me, felt pretty clear that it was probably from someone in my biological family, because it had photos of me; it had very specific information that very few people would have and I dont think many people would have random childhood photos of me. DSS had originally planned to place Fierceton with one of her mother's sisters but put her in foster care after Whitfield's principal warned the agency that Fierceton would not be safe with them. And its funny, cause it just made me so frustrated and I actually went back and read it. RG: who was, I believe now, the acting provost. When I came to Penn and saw all of these students who were living that life, there was a sense of community and solidarity amongst us, which was very powerful for me because I just felt so out of place. And I dont remember exactly what their statement was, but they disputed it. Later in the year she wrote online that the name change gave her "ownership of her identity" and a sense of agency she had not had before in her life. who was, I believe now, the acting provost. She also alleged that Penn had on many occasions failed to follow its own disciplinary policies in its investigation of her.[16]. So normally the term FGLI, its just an umbrella term for both. While that was not literally true, Penn's own definition of an FGLI student included those who have a "strained or limited" relationship with a parent who has graduated from college. RG: Interesting. Her last set of foster parents had had a baby and she felt less a part of their lives. RG: as a kid. I think this is a conversation not necessarily for people who are still in question about what happened here. [2], Morrison's lawyer questioned Fierceton closely about apparent differences between her medical records from the hospital and her description of her injuries in a scholarship application essay the lawyer had obtained, and other details from the latter, such as the "metallic" taste of a feeding tube that was plastic and her claim that she was unable to recognize her own facial features in the hospital mirror, when her medical records showed that her injuries were well short of being even temporarily disfiguring. If you want to give us additional feedback, email us at. She considered the advantages and disadvantages of reporting her mother, but ultimately feared she might not even be believed, as her mother would tell people she was mentally ill or lying. [10], Fierceton, who outside of school had also taken on a volunteer position as a birthing doula, decided during that summer to apply for a Rhodes Scholarship to get a Ph.D. at Oxford University in England, encouraged by a classmate who had just won one himself and was impressed by her activism. [2][5] It did not disclose that it had done so until March. While her yes answer to "At any time since you turned age 13, were both your parents deceased, were you in foster care or were you a dependent or ward of the court?" One, Michael Raffaele, said he believed Morrison was trying to leave Fierceton with no other options. So that was what that specific sentence in The New Yorker was referencing is this kind of condensing this group of people and to one sentence. At first she explained Fierceton's injuries as either having been caused by an intruder or somehow self-inflicted, then said her daughter had fallen downstairs while she was trying to help her get some chewing gum out of her hair. Mackenzie told the police her mother had pushed her down the stairs and struck her in the face. What happened the night before? And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. But I think a lot of it stems from the current policies and practices of federal and local funding and what kind of programs theyre funding for kids. Yeah. As a result she withdrew from the Rhodes Scholarship; a sympathetic Penn faculty member has paid her Oxford tuition in its stead.[2]. [Laughs.]. So first-generation and/or low-income, again, is the acronym. "[2], On her application, Fierceton recounted her background and the unexpected way it led to her becoming a foster child. So, yes. But its interesting because most of the questions are about these applications and then the second half is when it turns to these questions of the abuse. Photograph by Robbie Lawrence for The New Yorker Mackenzie Fierceton grew up in a middle-class suburb of St. Louis. Like, they want to curate a diverse experience for their well-off students, so that they can say that they had this diverse experience in college . Our producer is Zach Young. RG: And that feels like one of them where it feels like the system is willfully misunderstanding reality in order to bend it in their direction. And they released this quote-unquote report in April of 2021 with their findings. And with that, like you said, notion of: Well, theres no way that you went to private school and all of this could have still happened, or that you could be low-income now and this idea that socioeconomic status is permanent. The Chronicle reports that although she spent her final year of high school in foster care, the student had grown up in an affluent suburb of St. Louis with her mother, a radiologist, and attended private schools. Its, in my opinion, because they get overlooked and the kids like me are kind of rendered invisible by the privileges of our biological families. "[2][j], The evening the story ran, Ruderman called Fierceton back and told her she had received some anonymously written emails casting doubt on what she had written. [2] Morrison's bond was originally set at $40,000, but lowered to $5,000 over prosecutors' strenuous objections. But there was another definition that was also along those lines that I fit, that was, again, public on the website. Who would hold party elites accountable to the values they proclaim to have? Fierceton was mentioned in the complaint as having experienced similar issues following her seizure; she was deposed in the suit in March 2021, the month before the university's investigation led her to withdraw from the Rhodes Scholarship. And what area of it are you going to explore with your Ph.D.? And the staff member saying like: I understand, can you please give Mackenzie an estimate of how many questions are left? A picture of her was posted at the nurse's station should she make the attempt. "I think that we could contribute to the community, the broader Philadelphia community, and the West Philadelphia community more positively, instead of doing things that are not only undermining them but are actively policing them, and end up creating and perpetuating more violence," she told The Daily Pennsylvanian, the university's student newspaper. But I got a bit of pressure from Penn to do that. And she was shocked. And it has, has she stuck by that? And then instantly people started picking her story apart. [2], "Family is not the people you are related to by blood," she wrote in the diary. Others echoed the criticism. Within days of the article being published, the universitys general counsel was in touch with Mackenzies mother. RG: So how is a person who is filling out this application supposed to know what definition youre supposed to use? In the transcript, I wrote it was really just focused on: What happened the night you went into foster care? My understanding is there were two anonymous emails. Her mentor told Licht afterwards that "it felt like an attack on a student" and that she had never experienced anything like it. [2], Over the middle of 2020, Fierceton became active in the Black Lives Matter protests at Penn. And we have this idea of what a person looks like who commits a crime or who gets arrested for child abuse. And it just felt pretty devastating to me, because for so long I hid everything, Id been so ashamed, and I already felt so much guilt in coming forward then. I think they have said, well, theres different definitions and the dean who is the dean of the grad school said: Well, thats not our definition. Fierceton earned her bachelor's degree in political science from the College of Arts & Sciences and is . Have you ever heard of her case? [2], In July the OSC concluded its investigation with a 31-page report sent to provost Wendell Pritchett examining Fierceton's background more extensively than the Rhodes Trust had. I didnt encounter many of them in the two years that I was living in foster families. As an anonymous letter writer revealed, however, she was also the privately educated child of a radiologist, brought up in an affluent suburb. Its, in my opinion, because they get overlooked and the kids like me are kind of rendered invisible by the privileges of our biological families. And so was it later, in a different conversation where they asked about the line in the essay about not being able to recognize yourself or is there some illusion to that in the transcript that you found? 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